by   July 23 2010   
Trying to stop SideWiki Comments by creating a Hashed URL # is just a bad idea. If you have tested the SideWiki posting on a hash URL you will find that it allows posts.

SideWiki App is in it's EOL cycle

This old article was published to show that the hash method which made claim to stopping sidewiki posts didn't work.

This page has all the posts even the ones that didn't pan out all in one SideWiki location.

But, now that the SideWiki project is over there's no reason to keep this section going so it's headed to the archives just for indexing.

Once again the rush to create some type of script to stop SideWiki Comment postings has run into a dead end.

Are you using the Hash method? www.your domain .com /#1A82

Some people think by redirecting people with the toolbar installed to a hashed URL is going to stop them from posting.

Even if you all know how to remove the GTB6 from your computer registry you will be pleased to know that you can still post to sites with HASH scripts that claim to stop you from posting comments and viewing comments.

My testing shows you can post to a hashed URL but if you refresh the screen you will not see your comments because the hash simulates a different page.

SideWiki is very sensitive about the URL.

If you type www.xtremecomputer.com/ that will be different from www.xtremecomputer.com and www.xtremecomputer.com/default.asp .

But their is a way to get around all the claims of blocking Google SideWiki.

Remove the Registry entry GTB6.

Always post your comments with an external link to your Twitter or Blog.

Once you post your comment without the GTB6 in your registry you will be able to read the comments just fine.

Only the webmasters are fooling themselves about hiding comments.

Now even with the GTB6 in your registry and the hashed URL you can follow the link from your blog and view all the comments on the page once again.

The HASH system only places a HASH (#) when there is none or when it detects the UserAgent GTB6.

Basically it's a waste of time to HASH your site.

Try my suggestions and you'll see not a single HASH site can keep you from posting.

Have fun!

Oh, it's better to monitor posts then to prevent them.

Visit Xtreme Computer Comment Monitoring for more information.

Trying to stop SideWiki Comments by creating a Hashed URL # is just a bad idea. If you have tested the SideWiki posting on a hash URL you will find that it allows posts.


Sidewiki comments are here to stay. Can you take advantage of visitor comments?

SideWiki Comments are here to stay and I for one have seen more positive than negative with websites that use the comments to their advantage. Use Visitor Comments to your advantage and make the best...

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Sidewiki comments are here to stay. Can you take advantage of visitor comments?

SideWiki Comments seem to have brought out the loud speakers and bullhorns of those that like to toot their own horn. Now that the horn's are quiet it is time to start talking about what you can do with the SideWiki Comment system to help your online company grow.

If you haven't monitored your site I would suggest you try the API developed by XtremeComputer.Com Technician Murray W. You will be surprised what a Field Technician can do with online applications.

You can find more information about the Xtreme Computer SideWiki Comment Monitoring System in our Forums.

Let's talk about all the negative comments and speculation behind the SideWiki Commenting system by Google.

1. Your website size is being forced smaller due to the sidebar from SideWiki.

1a. This might be true if you are not using a wide screen monitor and it's the user that can open and close the SideWiki comment window. It's not open 100% of the time on your website. Most sites are of a size that when the visitor uses a wide screen view nothing is lost from your site.

2. Not able to find SideWiki Comments.

2a. This is true for many webmasters and for those that are tracking by UserAgent I would guess by now you have had enough of the emails. If you haven't asked to try our branded SideWiki Comment Tracker or if you haven't developed your own system then you have nothing at all to say. The tools are out and it's up to you to use them. Free or Paid you can find tools to monitor SideWiki Comments.

3. Spam and Flaming Comments.

3a. While testing our monitoring system for SideWiki comments we noticed a IP block that quickly visited the same page we were commenting on. It was Googles Network and a Live person was reading the comment. I saw many of my test comments (during our network tracking test) just disappear. I even commented about how quick the Google Team was reading the comments. One even gave a thumbs up about our posts. But this doesn't mean that they will be able to keep up with the comments once this becomes popular. That's why it's still important to monitor your site or have it monitored. You can find our monitor information in the forums.

Of all the comments about SideWiki the 3 listed above are the main complaints about the system.

You can see with each I have a solution and it's letting someone tell you when a comment is posted. Unless you are going to give up on Web Mastering and just browse pages looking for comments.

Once you discover what we have discovered about how to use SideWiki you might start changing your mind.

Here's one thing that surprised me and thought it shouldn't be happening.

This article if commented on and linked to a Blog will be first in Googles Search Results because they seem to still index Blogs faster than back end pages or a website like this one. Even if we have an RSS feed and XML sitemaps we found most of our forum posts are indexed via some Blog but at least they point back to our site.

With the SideWiki you can create a Blog on Blogger comment on your pages and link it out to your Blog. This is one way to use the SideWiki Comment System for Good.

Drawback we have found is if there is a Blog linked to the SideWiki comment and the comment has been removed by the Google Team the Blog content is still online. I would guess Google will remove the index reference from search results if the comment was removed. But to this date I don't know if that has or will happen.

Check out our forums about the SideWiki Comment Monitor and don't be afraid of SideWiki be open to it but monitor things so you can stay on top of your website you worked so hard on.

 

Sidewiki comments are here to stay. Can you take advantage of visitor comments?

SideWiki Comments seem to have brought out the loud speakers and bullhorns of those that like to toot their own horn. Now that the horn's are quiet it is time to start talking about what you can do with the SideWiki Comment system to help your online company grow.

If you haven't monitored your site I would suggest you try the API developed by XtremeComputer.Com Technician Murray W. You will be surprised what a Field Technician can do with online applications.

You can find more information about the Xtreme Computer SideWiki Comment Monitoring System in our Forums.

Let's talk about all the negative comments and speculation behind the SideWiki Commenting system by Google.

1. Your website size is being forced smaller due to the sidebar from SideWiki.

1a. This might be true if you are not using a wide screen monitor and it's the user that can open and close the SideWiki comment window. It's not open 100% of the time on your website. Most sites are of a size that when the visitor uses a wide screen view nothing is lost from your site.

2. Not able to find SideWiki Comments.

2a. This is true for many webmasters and for those that are tracking by UserAgent I would guess by now you have had enough of the emails. If you haven't asked to try our branded SideWiki Comment Tracker or if you haven't developed your own system then you have nothing at all to say. The tools are out and it's up to you to use them. Free or Paid you can find tools to monitor SideWiki Comments.

3. Spam and Flaming Comments.

3a. While testing our monitoring system for SideWiki comments we noticed a IP block that quickly visited the same page we were commenting on. It was Googles Network and a Live person was reading the comment. I saw many of my test comments (during our network tracking test) just disappear. I even commented about how quick the Google Team was reading the comments. One even gave a thumbs up about our posts. But this doesn't mean that they will be able to keep up with the comments once this becomes popular. That's why it's still important to monitor your site or have it monitored. You can find our monitor information in the forums.

Of all the comments about SideWiki the 3 listed above are the main complaints about the system.

You can see with each I have a solution and it's letting someone tell you when a comment is posted. Unless you are going to give up on Web Mastering and just browse pages looking for comments.

Once you discover what we have discovered about how to use SideWiki you might start changing your mind.

Here's one thing that surprised me and thought it shouldn't be happening.

This article if commented on and linked to a Blog will be first in Googles Search Results because they seem to still index Blogs faster than back end pages or a website like this one. Even if we have an RSS feed and XML sitemaps we found most of our forum posts are indexed via some Blog but at least they point back to our site.

With the SideWiki you can create a Blog on Blogger comment on your pages and link it out to your Blog. This is one way to use the SideWiki Comment System for Good.

Drawback we have found is if there is a Blog linked to the SideWiki comment and the comment has been removed by the Google Team the Blog content is still online. I would guess Google will remove the index reference from search results if the comment was removed. But to this date I don't know if that has or will happen.

Check out our forums about the SideWiki Comment Monitor and don't be afraid of SideWiki be open to it but monitor things so you can stay on top of your website you worked so hard on.


Dynamic Pages and page rewrites when commenting with SideWiki.

If you have read the Static Pages and SideWiki Comments post then you should know that there is really an unlimited amount of pages in your site if you use Dynamic Web Pages.

A person could actually inlcude a ?=something in your standard URL to a static page and make a comment on that page as well in Theory.

I haven't tested the this option of making up your own hashes so that your posts are set aside from the normal location for the page but as soon as I post this I'll attempt to hash a page on a static page.

Dynamic Pages and SideWiki

/forum/topic.asp?Topic=1
is different from
/forum/topic.asp?Topic
without a topic id.
If a page is displayed it can be commented on and you most likely will never know unless you monitor things as they are browsed.

Monitoring your dynamic pages by using sitemaps or search index results for you site will get most of your dynamic pages but what about the poorly formed pages like the example above?

Let's work with a standard link.
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
SideWiki Comments can be viewed and made to this URL and viewed by other visitors of the same link.

But, let's say a person wants to slip in a comment under the Radar of most SideWiki Comment Tracking Systems (All but the one I created).

Take the same URL:
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
Now add additional length to the query string.
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112&test=1

Your Pagewill show up but for SideWiki the added field is a different page.
Unless you strip the query this is a new location for SideWiki comments viewing the same page as others.

What can happen? Well if you find a person that really wants to post under the radar most others will never see the comment.
But when you link to a blog with the same URL that was created by the visitor anyone visiting the blog can see the comment and the page.

Dynamic Pages are the hardest to track in all cases and become impossible for most of your online tracking systems to keep up with created query strings like in the example above.

The only way to really handle malformed query strings is to report them when you discover them. Or you can work on a script that will redirect when your query string structure has changed. This will offer allot of work for the advanced websites.

When I started testing the different ways you can post SideWiki Comments on different pages it became clear that you need to not only monitor your pages but you have to also monitor visited pages.

Even your 404 pages that offer query strings need to be monitored.

I hope this information has got your brain working on your solution.
I know it made me add additional features to the SideWiki Comment Monitor by XtremeComputer.Com.

The more things we find the more advanced our monitoring system becomes. To date not a single malformed post was able to get by us. But if that day comes and a SideWiki Comment is made in our site where we are blind I'm sure a few more lines of code will correct that issue.

Theory Test Results:
The correct Dynamic Page is:
article.asp?v=59

Next I created this link which will display the same article but will make the SideWiki Comment system think it's a different page.

?v=59&test=1

I made a comment on this page with the &test=1 query added and linked it out to the XtremeComputer.Com Blogger Account.

Now it's possible that visitors of my blog can find my SideWiki comment and post comments to the same page without really letting others know about it.

The issue of MalFormed URLS and SideWiki brings to mind what hackers did with abandoned forums and Sites. They would setup shop to exchange information without many outside of their group knowing.

Actually with this you can setup a SideWiki Comment Group in the 404 pages of Google. !
Look to see if it's still online and has not been deleted.
I've linked it out to the xtremecomputer blog as well.
http://www.google.com/test/one/two/three/

I couldn't link directly to the xtremecomputer.blogger.com account but I did place it on mursplace.blogger.com which should show you a link back to the test/one/two/three/ 404 page.

If it's gone it's due to Google's Group monitoring the posts and acting on things in a good timely fashion. If it's still there things might get a little harder for most of us all.


Have a Great SideWiki Monitoring Day!

 



Dynamic pages and page rewrites SideWiki Comments

If you have read the Static Pages and SideWiki Comments post then you should know that there is really an unlimited amount of pages in your site if you use Dynamic Web Pages.

Dynamic Pages and page rewrites when commenting with SideWiki.

If you have read the Static Pages and SideWiki Comments post then you should know that there is really an unlimited amount of pages in your site if you use Dynamic Web Pages.

A person could actually inlcude a ?=something in your standard URL to a static page and make a comment on that page as well in Theory.

I haven't tested the this option of making up your own hashes so that your posts are set aside from the normal location for the page but as soon as I post this I'll attempt to hash a page on a static page.

Dynamic Pages and SideWiki

/forum/topic.asp?Topic=1
is different from
/forum/topic.asp?Topic
without a topic id.
If a page is displayed it can be commented on and you most likely will never know unless you monitor things as they are browsed.

Monitoring your dynamic pages by using sitemaps or search index results for you site will get most of your dynamic pages but what about the poorly formed pages like the example above?

Let's work with a standard link.
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
SideWiki Comments can be viewed and made to this URL and viewed by other visitors of the same link.

But, let's say a person wants to slip in a comment under the Radar of most SideWiki Comment Tracking Systems (All but the one I created).

Take the same URL:
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
Now add additional length to the query string.
/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112&test=1

Your Pagewill show up but for SideWiki the added field is a different page.
Unless you strip the query this is a new location for SideWiki comments viewing the same page as others.

What can happen? Well if you find a person that really wants to post under the radar most others will never see the comment.
But when you link to a blog with the same URL that was created by the visitor anyone visiting the blog can see the comment and the page.

Dynamic Pages are the hardest to track in all cases and become impossible for most of your online tracking systems to keep up with created query strings like in the example above.

The only way to really handle malformed query strings is to report them when you discover them. Or you can work on a script that will redirect when your query string structure has changed. This will offer allot of work for the advanced websites.

When I started testing the different ways you can post SideWiki Comments on different pages it became clear that you need to not only monitor your pages but you have to also monitor visited pages.

Even your 404 pages that offer query strings need to be monitored.

I hope this information has got your brain working on your solution.
I know it made me add additional features to the SideWiki Comment Monitor by XtremeComputer.Com.

The more things we find the more advanced our monitoring system becomes. To date not a single malformed post was able to get by us. But if that day comes and a SideWiki Comment is made in our site where we are blind I'm sure a few more lines of code will correct that issue.

Theory Test Results:
The correct Dynamic Page is:
article.asp?v=59

Next I created this link which will display the same article but will make the SideWiki Comment system think it's a different page.

?v=59&test=1

I made a comment on this page with the &test=1 query added and linked it out to the XtremeComputer.Com Blogger Account.

Now it's possible that visitors of my blog can find my SideWiki comment and post comments to the same page without really letting others know about it.

The issue of MalFormed URLS and SideWiki brings to mind what hackers did with abandoned forums and Sites. They would setup shop to exchange information without many outside of their group knowing.

Actually with this you can setup a SideWiki Comment Group in the 404 pages of Google. !
Look to see if it's still online and has not been deleted.
I've linked it out to the xtremecomputer blog as well.
http://www.google.com/test/one/two/three/

I couldn't link directly to the xtremecomputer.blogger.com account but I did place it on mursplace.blogger.com which should show you a link back to the test/one/two/three/ 404 page.

If it's gone it's due to Google's Group monitoring the posts and acting on things in a good timely fashion. If it's still there things might get a little harder for most of us all.


Have a Great SideWiki Monitoring Day!

 

 

Trying to stop SideWiki Comments by creating a Hashed URL # is just a bad idea. If you have tested the SideWiki posting on a hash URL you will find that it allows posts.