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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  5:14:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit XCTech's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dynamic Pages and page rewrites when commenting with SideWiki.

If you have read the Static Pages and SideWiki Comments post then you should know that there is really an unlimited amount of pages in your site if you use Dynamic Web Pages.

A person could actually inlcude a ?=something in your standard URL to a static page and make a comment on that page as well in Theory.

I haven't tested the this option of making up your own hashes so that your posts are set aside from the normal location for the page but as soon as I post this I'll attempt to hash a page on a static page.

Dynamic Pages and SideWiki

http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/topic.asp?Topic=1
is different from
http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/topic.asp?Topic
without a topic id.
If a page is displayed it can be commented on and you most likely will never know unless you monitor things as they are browsed.

Monitoring your dynamic pages by using sitemaps or search index results for you site will get most of your dynamic pages but what about the poorly formed pages like the example above?

Let's work with a standard link.
http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
SideWiki Comments can be viewed and made to this URL and viewed by other visitors of the same link.

But, let's say a person wants to slip in a comment under the Radar of most SideWiki Comment Tracking Systems (All but the one I created).

Take the same URL:
http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
Now add additional length to the query string.
http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112&test=1

Your Page http://www.xtremecomputer.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=112
will show up but for SideWiki the added field is a different page.
Unless you strip the query this is a new location for SideWiki comments viewing the same page as others.

What can happen? Well if you find a person that really wants to post under the radar most others will never see the comment.
But when you link to a blog with the same URL that was created by the visitor anyone visiting the blog can see the comment and the page.

Dynamic Pages are the hardest to track in all cases and become impossible for most of your online tracking systems to keep up with created query strings like in the example above.

The only way to really handle malformed query strings is to report them when you discover them. Or you can work on a script that will redirect when your query string structure has changed. This will offer allot of work for the advanced websites.

When I started testing the different ways you can post SideWiki Comments on different pages it became clear that you need to not only monitor your pages but you have to also monitor visited pages.

Even your 404 pages that offer query strings need to be monitored.

I hope this information has got your brain working on your solution.
I know it made me add additional features to the SideWiki Comment Monitor by XtremeComputer.Com.

The more things we find the more advanced our monitoring system becomes. To date not a single malformed post was able to get by us. But if that day comes and a SideWiki Comment is made in our site where we are blind I'm sure a few more lines of code will correct that issue.

Theory Test Results:
The correct Dynamic Page is:
http://www.xtremecomputer.com/articles/view_article.asp?v=59
Which I made a SideWiki Comment on and linked it out to http://xtremecomputer.blogger.com /

Next I created this link which will display the same article but will make the SideWiki Comment system think it's a different page.

http://www.xtremecomputer.com/articles/view_article.asp?v=59&test=1

I made a comment on this page with the &test=1 query added and linked it out to the XtremeComputer.Com Blogger Account.

Now it's possible that visitors of my blog can find my SideWiki comment and post comments to the same page without really letting others know about it.

The issue of MalFormed URLS and SideWiki brings to mind what hackers did with abandoned forums and Sites. They would setup shop to exchange information without many outside of their group knowing.

Actually with this you can setup a SideWiki Comment Group in the 404 pages of Google. !
Look to see if it's still online and has not been deleted.
I've linked it out to the xtremecomputer blog as well.
http://www.google.com/test/one/two/three/

I couldn't link directly to the xtremecomputer.blogger.com account but I did place it on mursplace.blogger.com which should show you a link back to the test/one/two/three/ 404 page.

If it's gone it's due to Google's Group monitoring the posts and acting on things in a good timely fashion. If it's still there things might get a little harder for most of us all.


Have a Great SideWiki Monitoring Day!


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Edited by - XCTech on 11/03/2009 5:47:38 PM
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